Active Submission - by John MacArthur

Found here. Our comments in bold.

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Unfortunately, Dr. MacArthur abandons scriptural documentation at key points, and barely manages to quote Scripture at all.

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Last time, we saw that women are not to be in authority over men but are to “remain quiet” (1 Timothy 2:12). (Let's actually quote the verse, since Dr. MacArthur seems reluctant to:

1Ti. 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

Dr. MacArthur inserts the plural form of the words without explanation.)

Obviously, that doesn’t mean a woman must never speak at all. (Why is this obvious? If Paul commands women to be silent, how does this mean they can speak? Paul writes:

1Co. 14:33-34 As in all the congregations of the saints, 34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 

Interestingly, the word "women" here is also singular in the Greek, as is the word "they." This seems rather specific to us. Paul pointedly tells his readers that a woman cannot speak. But Dr. Macarthur tells us it is obvious this isn't true. 

Now, we would agree with Dr. MacArthur that women obviously can speak in church, but we will document our claim. Women leaders are to be talkers, but not maliciously:

1Ti. 3:11 In the same way, deaconesses are to be women worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

Older women are to teach what is good:

Tit. 2:3 Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good.

Woman pray and prophesy in church:

1Co. 11:5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head — it is just as though her head were shaved.

A woman must teach things that don't mislead the saints:

Re. 2:20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

Women are a vital part—a vital half—of the church. It would be a terrible loss to exclude them from church life. So what kind of involvement is acceptable?

An important aspect of church life is hearing the Word taught. In 1 Corinthians 14:35, Paul ensures that women have every opportunity to understand Scripture as well as men: “If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home.”

That command indicates certain women were disrupting the church service by asking questions. If they desired to learn, disrupting the church service was not the way to do it. The acceptable outlet for questions and lengthy discussion was to be at home with their husbands.

As a side note, that verse implies that Christian husbands should be well taught in the Word. Frustration with Christian men, often including their own husbands, who do not responsibly fulfill their God-given leadership assignments can tempt many women to go beyond their biblical roles.

But God has established the proper order and relationship of male and female roles in the church, and they are not to be violated for any reason. For a woman to assume a man’s role because he has neglected it merely compounds the problem. God has led women to do work that men have refused to do, but He does not lead them to accomplish that work through roles He has restricted to men.

That doesn’t mean, however, that God never permits women to speak His truth in public:

• Paul spoke with various churches and synagogues during his missionary journeys, answering questions from women as well as men (cf. Acts 17:2–4). There is no mention of people asking questions here.) I see nothing wrong with a woman asking questions or sharing what the Spirit of God has taught her out of the Word during informal Bible study and fellowship.
• I thank God for the many faithful women who serve on the mission field in a variety of public ways but refrain from leading the church. If there was ever a need for leadership on the mission field, it was in Paul’s day. He could have compromised by using women in leadership roles, but he didn’t. (This is false. Paul provides a long list of leaders in Romans 16, including many women, where he commends their hard work.) When a shortage of men exists on the mission field, don’t violate biblical principles but instead ask the Lord of the harvest to send more laborers (Matthew 9:38).
• Women can proclaim the Word of God except when the church meets for corporate worship. (Dr. MacArthur does not provide us with the biblical source of this distinction.) The Old Testament says, “The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host” (Psalm 68:11). The New Testament gives examples of Mary, Anna, and Priscilla declaring God’s truth to men and women (Luke 1:46–55; 2:36–38; Acts 18:24–26).

Women can pray in public. Acts 1:13–14 describes a prayer meeting where women and men, including Jesus’ apostles, were present. But leading in prayer during an official meeting of the church is, as we’ve already seen, a role ordained for men (1 Timothy 2:8). (Now Dr. MacArthur lies to us. Let's quote the verse: 

1Ti. 2:8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.

There is no mention of an official meeting of the church. There is no mention of women here.

In fact, Paul was using the common way of describing human kind. He is not excluding women, unless he was doing so just a couple of chapters later:

1Ti. 4:10 ...we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

Unless Dr. MacArthur is prepared to tell us that Paul is excluding women, then women are not being excluded from lifting holy hands in prayer.)

Women can still be actively involved in the life of the church. Appropriate times abound for men and women to share equally in exchanging questions and insights. But when the church comes together as a body to worship God, His standards are clear: The role of leadership is reserved for men.

But why is that the case? What’s the basis for that authority structure?

A popular view is that woman’s subordinate role is a result of the Fall. Since God reversed the effects of the curse through Christ, some argue that He abolished differing male and female roles. Paul, however, grounds woman’s subordinate role in the order of creation, not in the Fall: “For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve” (1 Timothy 2:13). Eve was created after Adam to be his helper (Genesis 2:18)—she was designed to follow his lead, live on his provisions, and find safety in his strength. Such tendencies were from that point on built into all women. (Are all women subject to all men? Should a man's wife be subject to another man, simply because he's a man? Or rather, is a woman's submission to her husband specifically, and to authority in general? Dr. MacArthur seems to think the former, but does not document the idea.)

Some have argued that Paul’s teaching was prompted by a cultural situation at Ephesus and hence is not applicable today. But this teaching was not for Ephesus alone—for example, he taught the same truth to the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 11:8–9).

Paul does not derive woman’s role from the Fall; he uses that event as further corroboration. He points out that “it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression” (1 Timothy 2:14).

We usually connect the Fall with Adam since Romans 5:12–21 speaks repeatedly of the one man (Adam) who ushered sin and death into the world. Although he was not deceived by Satan, as was Eve, Adam still chose to disobey God. As the head of their relationship, he bore ultimate responsibility. But we must keep in mind that he didn’t actually fall first—Eve did (Genesis 3:1–6). When Eve abandoned the protection of Adam’s leadership and attempted to deal independently with the enemy, she was deceived.

By being so easily deceived, Eve revealed her inability to lead effectively. She had met more than her match in Satan. The Greek word translated “deceived” in 1 Timothy 2:14 is a particularly strong term: It refers to being thoroughly deceived. When a woman leaves the shelter of her protector, she exposes a certain amount of vulnerability.

The Fall resulted not only from direct disobedience of God’s command but also from a violation of the divinely appointed role of the sexes. Eve acted independently and assumed the role of leadership; Adam abdicated his leadership and followed Eve’s lead. That does not mean Adam was less culpable than Eve, or that she was more defective—both of them chose to sin. We’re all vulnerable in different ways.

Christians affirm the leadership of men in the church because it is established by creation and confirmed by the Fall. The headship of man, then, was part of God’s design from the beginning. The tragic experience of the Fall confirmed the wisdom of that design. No daughter of Eve should follow her path and enter the forbidden territory of authority intended for men.