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Thursday, June 27, 2019

Kris Vallotton Usurping the Throne of God - Believes He Never Sins - by Rev. Anthony Wade

Found here. My comments in bold.
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We have commented on Rev. Wade before. We have not been impressed by his biblical exposition, nor his demeanor.  This article, long, pedantic, and obtuse, is in keeping with these shortcomings, and is in fact very nearly astounding for its misrepresentation of Kris Vallotton's statements.

It is noteworthy that Vallotton clearly says that Christians do sin. In spite of this, the author again and again hyperbolically asserts that Vallotton is teaching "sinless perfection."

We do not specifically intend to defend Vallotton or Bethel church. We shall, however, analyze the author's presentation.
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Pray then like this: "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. -- Matthew 6:9-13 (ESV)

https://krisvallotton.com/believe-can-go-week-without-sinning/

The bible says that if we say we have no sin that we lie, make God a liar, and the truth cannot be in us. (Let's actually quote the Scripture, since the author seems reluctant to do so. 1Jn. 1:10-2:1: 
If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense — Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
We note from this passage that claiming that we do not sin makes God out to be a liar. Then John goes right on in his hope that we will not sin. Now let's see if the author makes the necessary connection between the testimony of the Bible, the statements of Kris Vallotton, and the author's own perspective.)

The doctrine of sinless perfection is certainly not new. (So Vallotton's error is he claimed sinless perfection. Will the author demonstrate this? No.)

Many a false teacher has gone before Kris Vallotton espousing the same heretical nonsense. It is grounded in believing that you are more than you really are. It dates back as far as the fall of Lucifer who wanted to usurp the throne of God. There is only one that demonstrated sinless perfection and that is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To try and claim that mantle is to try and usurp His throne. (The author continues to pollute the water. It seems he's attempting to prejudice the reader into an a priori conclusion that Vallotton is beyond the pale. 

So, does Vallotton claim sinless perfection? No.)

I understand why someone as false as Kris Vallotton would fall for something so false. The bible says the truth is not in him, period, full stop. (Our assumption is proving correct. The author is attempting to prejudice us. Thus the author can summarily dismiss him as a false teacher before he even sets forth his case. Wow.)

When you believe in gemstones, gold dust, glory clouds, angel feathers, schools of the supernatural, mandatory healing, poverty mindsets and a host of other heretical teachings what is a little sinless perfection? (These are "heretical teachings?" An astounding claim! Apparently the author does not understand the word "heretical." Heresy is defined as an opinion or doctrine at variance with the orthodox or accepted doctrine, especially of a church or religious system. So what orthodox doctrine is at stake here? 

What Vallotton believes about glory clouds is a matter of heresy? If Vallotton thinks gold dust has fallen, he's a heretic? The truth is not in him because of gemstones? These are outrageous, hyperbolic assertions.)

Let us reason together beloved through the above linked article from Bethel Church's number two heretic, Kris Vallotton.

"A large portion of the Church believes that even when you're saved, you're still a sinner who needs to constantly repent. If this fallacy is the foundation of your thinking, you can get caught up in a cycle of sin, shame and self-punishment. The truth and good news is that Jesus came to set us free from a lifestyle of proving our own innocence! At the cross, the work of the blood of Christ finished the story for us! It's non-negotiable--once you're saved, your new nature is that of a saint (who may have moments of sin, not a nature of sin)." -- Kris Vallotton

Sooo a saint has moments of sin but not a nature of sin? Is this from the second chapter of 1Prevarications? (This claim is not one of sinless perfection. It is a claim that one still sins, yet has a new nature. This is a scriptural claim:
2Co. 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
Col. 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
1Pe. 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
Ep. 4:22-24 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23 to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24 and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
Ga. 3:27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ...
Clearly we are new. We have put off the old and are now clothed in Christ and are found in Him. Vallotton is correct.)

Let's destroy this heresy right off the bat. The key verses are from when the disciples ask Jesus to teach them how to pray. The Lord's Prayer includes "forgive us our debts (or sins)." That's odd -- why would Jesus teach us to pray daily for the forgiveness of our sins (Notice that Vallotton acknowledges that Christians have moments of sin, which implicitly means he believes that Christians sin. 

But let's examine the text. Is this about daily confession? 

The Greek word for "debts" is ὀφείλημα, ατος, τό (opheiléma), properly, that which is justly or legally due, a debt. So the question is, what do we owe, what is justly or legally due

Well, "the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. [Ro. 6:23] Our sin means we must die, but we were given a gift through Jesus' death on the cross.

That debt is paid. The Lord's Prayer is probably not about confession, though it is acceptable to read it that way. But we believe it's a statement about what Jesus would soon accomplish on the cross. He would pay this debt for us.)

if we were expected to never sin after salvation? (Again the author makes the claim that Vallotton said he doesn't sin. We yet await the quote from Vollotton where he said this.)

The answer is He wouldn't. Vallotton also misrepresents reality here. We do not try to prove our innocence. We admit our guilt. (Hmm. Vallotton said "Jesus came to set us free from a lifestyle of proving our own innocence!" So the author and Vallotton agree. Apparently the author didn't read Vallotton's statement closely enough.)

What Jesus came to set us free from is the condemnation that sin carries under the law. (No Scripture reference provided for this assertion. We shall do the author's work:
Ro. 5:16 Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
Ro. 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
Therefore, if we have been set free from the condemnation of sin as new creations, we no longer live under the law. All things are new. Our position and destiny have been changed. 1Pe. 2:9: 
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
The author continually grapples with the difference between identity as new creations versus our struggle against the old man. He never is able to resolve this.)

Well after the salvation of Peter and Paul, we find Paul having to rebuke Peter for the sin of hypocrisy with how he dealt with the Gentiles. That was not a "moment" of sin. (??? Lacking any documentation for his summary dismissal, we have no other obligation than to offer our our own summary dismissal: Yes, it was a moment of sin.)

"So, you may be wondering where the desire to sin comes from after you're saved. The devil wants to convince us that sin, wickedness, addictions and every other form of bondage are rooted in our nature. That way, he can torment us and then blame it on our old man! But in the parable of the lost sheep, Jesus said that "there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance" (Luke 15:7). Jesus said ninety-nine out of a hundred people in God need no repentance! The normal Christian life is not supposed to be an exhausting wrestling match with a dead man, but an abundant, joy-filled life with God, salted with an occasional season of strong resistance from our archenemy." -- Kris Vallotton

It is not the devil that wants to convince us of our sin nature -- the bible explains that in multiple places. (The author twists Vallotton's words. Vollotton said that the devil wants to convince us that sin is in our nature. Not our sin nature, our nature.)

Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. -- Ecclesiastes 7:20 (ESV)

For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, - Romans 8:3 (ESV)

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned--every one--to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. -- Isaiah 53:6 (ESV)
(None of these Scriptures are relevant to the discussion.)

What Vallotton does to the parable of the lost sheep here is sinful. The point of the parable was the LOST sheep, not the 99. (Yet the verse contains other information, and the 99 are contrasted with the 1. The point of the parable does not obviate Vallotton's statement, which is true.)

This is a parable about salvation, not sinless perfection. Nowhere does the text suggest that the 99 are sinless. (Nowhere in the quote does Vollotton suggest that they are.)

The point is they are found (saved). (No, the point is that they are not astray.)

So, the normal Christian life is not a struggle with the flesh? (Apparently the auhtor has a problem with reading comprehension. Vallotton did not say this. He said, The normal Christian life is not supposed to be an exhausting wrestling match with a dead man... The Bible is clear that our struggle is not against flesh and blood... [Ep. 6:12]) 

Paul seemed to feel differently:

So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin. -- Romans 7:21-25 (ESV) (Indeed, Paul struggled with his flesh at times. Vallotton does not dispute this idea. But the passage does not say that Paul was in continual struggle.)

The flesh serves the law of sin beloved. the spirit gives life but the flesh profits nothing. We must understand this false teaching within the construct of the belief system Vallotton operates under. In Bethel theology, we are little gods. (Undocumented assertion.)

We can speak things into existence and creation. (Undocumented assertion.)

We can teach the gifts of the Holy Spirit. (We cannot? The author does not document his claim. We shall, however, document ours. Consider how the Spirit determines the gifts:
1Co. 12:8-11 To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
"Distinguishing" is διάκρισις, εως, ἡ (diakrisis), which is a discernment (conclusion) which distinguishes "look-alikes," i.e. things that appear to be the same. The word appears three times in the NT, also in 
He. 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
Notice that on one hand the Spirit determines who gets what gifts, but on the other hand mature people have trained themselves to exercise the gift of distinguishing spirits. If a person can train themselves to operate in a spiritual gift, they can be trained by others. 

Indeed, if the Spirit sovereignly determines the gifts, then how can Paul, just a few verses later, command us to 
1Co. 12:31 ...eagerly desire the greater gifts. 
Conclusion: We can ask the Spirit for spiritual gifts, we can train ourselves in them as part of maturity, and by deduction we can learn them.)

We believe every evil thought that pops into our head is a word straight from God. (Undocumented assertion.) 

We believe God wants us rich beyond measure. (Undocumented assertion.)

We believe we are royalty over this world. (1Pe. 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation...)

We believe we are supposed to rule this world as kings. (Undocumented assertion.)

Penitent sinners bowing humbly before God? That's for suckers. So sinless perfection is a given within such a corrupt paradigm. Vallotton continues:

"In summary: You can't sin by mistake. There's a difference between a mistake and a sin. The only way you can sin is to know that what you're doing is wrong and do it anyway. Sin is knowing something is wrong and doing it anyway. Sin is a heart issue, so a mistake and a sin aren't the same things. I can back my car up and run over somebody and kill them by accident. There would be extreme grief, painful consequences and a mess to clean up but I wouldn't have to answer to God on it. This example is different from a situation where I see someone I hate walking on the sidewalk and decide to run over them and break their foot. In that case, I would have to answer to God on my actions. The depth of the damage does not determine whether I sinned or not. My heart and intentions do. So can you go a whole day without sinning? Absolutely. It's likely you can't go a whole week without making a mistake, though, as they happen unintentionally. Both sins and mistakes leave a mess to clean up, but you only have to answer to God for the sin." -- Kris Vallotton

It seems Kris Vallotton is parsing words to the extreme to excuse sinful behavior. (Undocumented assertion.)

So, let us think this through rationally and biblically. If we commit a sin but are not aware of it, is it a sin? Are we liable for it? The answer is yes. The example he gives falls short because the taking of life innocently was not considered sin to begin with. (Vallotton does not say we do not sin unawares. He is taking about deliberate sin.)

Let's use a more coherent example. Everyone would agree that preaching or prophesying falsely is a sin. (We do not agree. Someone can mistakenly say something unbiblical, but it isn't necessarily sin. Since no one speaks perfectly, grace abounds for us.)

It is an egregious sin because you affect not only yourself but others who hear you. You misrepresent God. Now, not all false teachers or prophets know they are false. (The author changes the subject to false teachers.)

Many honestly believe in what they do, say and teach. Joel Osteen is a false as the day is long but most would have no issue in believing his intentions are not malicious. As opposed to someone like Kenneth Copeland, Mike Murdock or Benny Hinn, who we just know are charlatans; fully aware they are hucksters. (Undocumented assertion.)

So does Joel Osteen know he is sinning? In this example, he does not. That hardly means his false teaching is merely a mistake that he will not answer to God for. (Answering to God was not previously part of the equation. We know we will answer for our careless words.)

Look at the people who stand before Christ in judgment in Matthew 7. They are all apparently well churched. They seem surprised and aghast at discovering that their beliefs were in vain. In other words, they did not know that they were following a false gospel and believed in a false christ. Does Jesus laugh it off and say don't worry about it? No. He says away from me you who practice lawlessness. (The author is confused, and once again fails to quote the passage. Mt. 7:21:
Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?" 23 Then I will tell them plainly, "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"
 Jesus DOES NOT SAY they were falsely prophesying or falsely performing miracles. Their sin is they did not do the will of my Father who is in heaven. Perhaps this is why the author does not quote Scripture. He does not want us to read it to find out he's misrepresenting it.)

This parsing is commonplace in false teaching where sins are often passed off as mere mistakes to avoid having to deal with the stickier matters of repentance and judgment. (Unsupported assertion.)

The fact is that theology grounded in the truth of God's wrath does not sell a lot of books of (sic) sell out church events. (Irrelevant tangent.)

Telling people to not worry about sin? (The author has not documented that Vallotton is telling anyone to not worry about sin.)

Yeah, that will sell every time because it is just what people want to hear -- eternal life without temporal change or eternal consequence.

"Why does it matter? In 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV) Paul says that we are a "new creation"--not just a new spirit, but an entirely new being. Our very nature has been completely transformed. We have been changed from those who were hostile toward God, into saints who love Jesus with their entire being--spirit, soul and body! In fact, God has done so much to set us up for a holy life that if (not when) we sin, we actually need an advocate to help plead our case. Thus, after we have confessed our sins, (Hmmm. Vallotton just contradicted the author. He does preach repentance.)

the second way we can deceive ourselves is by saying that we know God while continuing to practice sin. And one of the best ways to do this is to embrace the belief that we are still sinners by nature. If we believe we are sinners, we will continue to sin." -- Kris Vallotton

Sigh. If we tell ourselves we are not sinners, we lie to ourselves and call God a liar! (The author continues lying and misrepresenting Scripture. 1Jn. 1:10: 
If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
The text says we claim we have not sinned. It isn't "we are not sinners."The author is substituting words to create a false narrative. This means he is bearing false witness.)

Vallotton's point here is simply ridiculous. That sin is a result of believing in a sin nature. (Read the quote again. Vollotton does not say this.)

How do we know it is a ridiculous point? Because Kris Vallotton is an egregious false teacher and thus an egregious sinner, yet he believes he is not. (This is simply puerile. Unable to come to grips with the nature of the new man in Christ, the author is reduced to "it's ridiculous because he's a false teacher." Sputtering in impotent rage, the author descends into irrationality.)

This is someone who teaches that if you are poor you just suffer from a poverty mindset. Unsupported assertion.)

His usage of 2Corinthians is also askew. This entire section of scripture is dealing with the notion that we are now ambassadors for Christ imploring people to believe in the Good News. As such, we are new creations in that we were once in rebellion to God. The new creation is reconciled to God through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Our flesh however remains our flesh. (The author will now quote Scripture which contradicts his assertion...)

And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another. -- Galatians 5:24-26 (ESV)

And he said to all, "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. -- Luke 9:23 (ESV)

If the scripture says do not become conceited, provoking one another and envious then it must mean it is wholly possible to do these things -- which are sinful. In the Luke verse we see Jesus say that the picking up of our cross and denying our selves (which means our sinful nature) must be a daily occurrence. Now, Kris is right that living a lifestyle of sin is not congruent with someone who is saved but that speaks to their eternal state in salvation. (The author begins walking it all back.)

Someone who is living an adulterous lifestyle without repentance is either not saved or strayed so far from Christ that the conviction of the Holy Spirit no longer is felt. Either way, they stand a real good chance of standing before Christ and saying Lord Lord.

"Let me be clear that I am not saying we will never choose to sin or never need to repent once we are born again. All it takes to sin is a free will and the capacity to believe the lies of the enemy, and believers possess both. We may indeed choose to sin, and consequently, need to repent. What I am saying is that we don't naturally sin because we no longer have a sin nature that is married to the Law. Our old nature has been crucified with Christ, we are new creations married to Christ in the New Covenant. Those of us who know God are not in a war with our flesh, however, we do have a devious, evil enemy who is a sinner. He is endlessly accusing the Body of having his own wicked nature. He is trying to get us to believe him, to forget who we really are and to disqualify ourselves from our divine destiny of putting him under our feet." -- Kris Vallotton

This is breathtakingly bad theology. Our sin nature was never married to the law.  The law reveals our sin and the Gospel sets us free from the eternal judgment of the law. (It is the author's theology that is bad. Ro. 3:20-21: 
Therefore no-one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.
The law makes us conscious of sin, but cannot make us righteous. The Gospel makes us apart from the law. Thus the sin nature is connected to the law, and the cross disconnects us from that, while the resurrection makes us new.)

It does not change our sin nature. (The gospel kills the old man. The sin nature is put to death!)

Read Romans 3 if you want to see how God sees us without the blood of Christ. None follow after God! Vallotton as usual is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He just spent the first 80% of this article telling you that believers do not sin (Another lie.)

and now he is couching that with, well of course they CAN sin. (The author contradicts himself in the space of one sentence.)

No Kris, you do not get to have it both ways. We are also not married to Christ in the new covenant. The church collectively is the bride. (That is the same thing.)

Notice that it is always someone else that takes on our sinful nature. We are never to blame. (Where did Vallotton say this?)

Its that rascally ole devil that's the real sinner! Not us! (Where did Vallotton say this?)

This is merely the end result of poisoned theology beloved. This is what happens when your beliefs are that you are the beez-neez. When you have no humility, you start to think you are God, even if its just a little god. Mercifully, Vallotton concludes.

'Embrace your true identity. So today I want to encourage you to embrace your identity as a saint, repent from any partnership you've made with the lie that you're a sinner, and begin walking in the freedom that Jesus purchased for you! If this is a new revelation for you, I encourage you to declare this over yourself today: "I am a saint. I am a new creation. My natural tendency is to please God. I am free from the life of sin and shame! I bless my soul to be led by my spirit and Holy Spirit into all righteousness!"' -- Kris Vallotton

If you discern beloved you must realize this is the voice of Satan speaking to you. Don't believe you are a sinner! Just look at this declaration from one of the most sinful false teachers alive today. Is Kris Vallotton's natural tendency to please God? If it were he would stop lying about Him! Is he free from a life of sin and shame? No! His entire ministry is sinful and shameful. How much blood does he have on his hands for those he has led astray from Christ? He thinks he has the power to bless his own soul and believes he is led by the Holy Spirit! He cannot and he is not. (We do have the power and obligation to command our souls:
Ps. 42:5 Why are you downcast, O my soul? Why so disturbed within me? Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him...
Ps. 57:8 Awake, my soul!
Ps. 62:5 Find rest, O my soul, in God alone...
Ps. 103:1 Praise the LORD, O my soul; all my inmost being, praise his holy name.
Ps. 116:7 Be at rest once more, O my soul...
Ps. 131:2 But I have stilled and quietened my soul...
He is a sinful false teacher and that beloved, is no mistake. 

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